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All I know is that I waited forever to be able to read a collected version of I am Legion. I ordered two copies and I hope they get here without a hitch.

There’s not a single word in the CBR article about advertising. How many comics publishers run ads in any sort of non-comics media to attract attention to their publications?

SRS

It really is a shame that the US comics fan can’t expand to include such great material as the offerings from Humanoids. They have excellent stories, are and outstanding production values. I always hope for better, but when even high end US publishers like Buenaventura can’t make a go, how can I expect Humanoids to succeed.

Y’know, speaking as a store which did order all of Humanoids line — at levels equal to or higher than 77 other titles from “Premier” publishers — I have to suggest that the failure of these to gain traction is almost certainly due to the fact, as far as I can tell, the sum total of Humanoids publicity and promotion for these books was their catalog listing in PREVIEWS.

It is pretty difficult to get people to be interested in things — especially different than what they’re used to — if you don’t bother to tell them that those things exist in the first place.

It is the publisher’s responsibility to promote their wares.

-B

also the size. Just had them released in the same French BD format: make the size the gimmick. Humanoids would’ve saved money on printing too

speaking for myself as a comic fan, i spent all of my childhood hearing about the comics of Bilal and Jodorowski/Moebius and others as these mythic otherworldly masterpieces that i’d only get to see glimpses of in reference books.

once they came out here i found myself completely underwhelmed.

this is just my opinion, but maybe they don’t sell well because they simply haven’t aged well (if they were all that good in the first place).

would kill to be able to complete my Blueberry collection though…

The problem, as I see it is the reader, myself included, has been “fooled” to many times by Humanoids (and other companies) and its tiring to hear that something is coming out and it doesn’t. OR its of poor quality, like I Am Legion, which is beautiful but somehow the production was 5th grade.

The oversize hardcovers are incredibly beautiful and sold ok but fans loved them. Then DC comes along and the format is changed, abandoning the original “fans.” But new fans aren’t interested because its all material that’s been available in other formats for years.

Then only part of the series comes out and we get poorly produced comic size book, which are, again, only partially released.

Now they’re back and expect people to rush over and buy the books.

The worst part of this is the books Humanoids puts out/reprints from Europe are FANTASTIC! I would rank Metabarons, for one, as one of the top 10 Graphic Novels of all time.

IMHO.

It also doesn’t help that when they re-released Metabarons recently, they released volumes 2 and 3 before releasing volume 1 (and it’s been a few weeks now with volume 1 nowhere to be seen).

Bouncer is an incredible book. Boucq is an incredible artist. The story deserves to be in print in English. I’m a lifelong fan of the man’s work.

Mad Woman is a fine, fine piece of work (especially the first half). Moeb is peak form.

Anonymous–all the Blueberrys are currently available in French and Spanish. Moeb still churns one out a year (as of last year at least).

Thanks for all the thoughts. We are honored by the genuine responses we’ve been receiving regarding our return to the US comics market.

We are determined to reestablish our presence in the US comics market. Part of that plan is to have a closer relationship with the wonderful retailers out there like Brian Hibbs. We wish we reached out to you sooner. For that we are sorry and hope to change.

We are also continually exploring the ideal formats to present our material in. Those of you disappointed in the lack of a traditional European size will be happy to hear that we’ve come up with a way to satisfy those readers. It will only be something we do in very limited runs on very special collections. The first one to see this format will be the Moebius and Jodorowsky Incal collection (in the original Chaland colors) to be released at the end of 2010.

Metabarons Vol. 1, Vol. 4 and Whispers #1 should be in stores mid-July.

Pulphope (Paul Pope?), couldn’t be more right. I love what Boucq’s been doing on Bouncer. A brilliant artist doing incredible work on a beautiful Western story.

Thanks a bunch,

Bob Silva
EIC, Humanoids

Moebius in the original colors is great news! I very much prefer that classic flat-color style to the more heavily modelled coloring on later editions that obscured the linework. Thanks very much for that!

The big problem is, they are not going to sell on the US.

WHy? I’ll explain.

The Direct Market simpley doesn’t want it (or anything besides the Big Two superheroes). Nothing to do about it, it’s a fact of life that the DIrect Market is hostile to comics not done to its incredibly limited specs.

Which means that Humanoids should be directing its production to the bookstore market. Cinebook has had some sucess publishing french-belgian stuff in english on the UK bookstore market. The problem is, they have quite a lot of quality all-ages stuff, while Humanoids has pretty much only mature stuff. That’s a hard sell, just ask manga publishers! Naruto and One Piece sell by the truckload, Golgo 13 and 20th Century Boys? Not so much.

I don’t think they have much of a chance, sad to say. It’s hard to sell non-Big Two Superheroes on the Direct Market. It’s hard to sell mature genre comics on bookstores. And it’s VERY hard to sell European comics on the US. I’ve seen the numbers from previous Humanoids attempts.

They should get used to the fact that sales WILL be limited and put them out on the original format anyway. What good is to sell, say, 1500 smaller sized books instead of 1000 oversized ones? The smaller, cheaper format WON’T make the books miraculously sell 10k copies!

And it bears mentioning that manga only took off on the US when publishers gave up trying to fit it on the US comics format and started using one closer to the original.

(Not to mention that, as an european, I think that trying to peddle our cultural masterpieces on the same ordinary format than the disposable US comics crap is an offense to the creators and the comics artform. But that’s just me.)

>>>The Direct Market simpley doesn’t want it (or anything besides the Big Two superheroes).<<<

???

Here's my Top 50 Books since the first of the year:

WALKING DEAD TP VOL 11 FEAR THE HUNTERS
WILSON HC
FABLES TP VOL 13 THE GREAT FABLES CROSSOVER
KICK ASS PREM HC
UNWRITTEN TP VOL 01 TOMMY TAYLOR BOGUS IDENTITY TP
ASTERIOS POLYP GN
BOOK OF GENESIS ILLUS BY ROBERT CRUMB HC
CHEW TP VOL 01
Y THE LAST MAN TP VOL 01 UNMANNED (OCT058020)
SCOTT PILGRIM GN VOL 01 SP PRECIOUS LITTLE LIFE
HELLBOY TP VOL 09 WILD HUNT
BTVS SEASON 8 TP VOL 06 RETREAT
SCOTT PILGRIM GN VOL 02 VS THE WORLD
BOYS TP VOL 06 SELF-PRESERVATION SOCIETY
LOEG III CENTURY #1 1910 NEW PTG
SCOTT PILGRIM GN VOL 04 SP GETS IT TOGETHER
WALKING DEAD TP VOL 10 WHAT WE BECOME
Y THE LAST MAN TP VOL 02 CYCLES (OCT058281) (MR)
ALL STAR SUPERMAN TP VOL 02
EX MACHINA TP VOL 09 RING OUT THE OLD
OTHER LIVES HC
TROUBLEMAKERS HC
EIGHTBALL GHOST WORLD TP
GRENDEL BEHOLD THE DEVIL HC
NO HERO TP
SCOTT PILGRIM GN VOL 05 SP VS THE UNIVERSE
SERENITY BETTER DAYS TP NEW PTG
WALKING DEAD TP VOL 01 DAYS GONE BYE
WALKING DEAD TP VOL 02 MILES BEHIND US
100 BULLETS TP VOL 01 FIRST SHOT LAST CALL (SEP068078)
BPRD TP VOL 12 WAR ON FROGS
CROSSED TP VOL 01
DMZ TP VOL 08 HEARTS AND MINDS
EX MACHINA TP VOL 08 DIRTY TRICKS
FABLES TP VOL 01 LEGENDS IN EXILE (APR058372)
FREAKANGELS TP VOL 04
IGNITION CITY TP VOL 01
INCOGNITO TP
PREACHER TP VOL 02 UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD NEW EDITION (M
WITCHFINDER IN THE SERVICE OF ANGELS TP VOL 01
CRIMINAL TP VOL 04 BAD NIGHT (NOV082430) (MR)
EX MACHINA TP VOL 01 THE FIRST HUNDRED DAYS
FABLES TP VOL 12 THE DARK AGES
PLANETARY HC VOL 04
SANDMAN TP VOL 01 PRELUDES & NOCTURNES (DEC058090)
SANDMAN TP VOL 02 THE DOLLS HOUSE (APR058268)
SCALPED TP VOL 01 INDIAN COUNTRY (MAY070243) (MR)
THE ARRIVAL GN (C: 1-1-2)
TRANSMETROPOLITAN TP VOL 01 BACK ON THE STREET
Y THE LAST MAN TP VOL 03 ONE SMALL STEP (MAR068027) (MR)

There's EXACTLY ONE "Big Two Superhero" comic on that list — and that comes in at #19.

The overall DM, as shown by the ICv2 lists show that only 22 of the Top 50 are "Big Two Superheros" — http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/17680.html — and that's counting something like WEDNESDAY COMICS as "Big Two Superheroes"

-B

yeah, but Brian: you don’t count

Brian, you are hardly the whole Direct Market. Here is the Diamond list for 2009:
http://www.diamondcomics.com/public/default.asp?t=1&m=1&c=3&s=816&ai=91091&ssd=

It’s mostly Big Two super-heroes or works VERY close to it (like The Boys, Buffy or LEOG).

I’ll grant you Walking Dead, but that’s a book that worked up the ladder by being a soap opera-style zombie story published (mostly) every month. No Humanoids book can ever hope to match it because there is simply not a big enough series to be published that way long enough.

And that’s your TPB list, how is your regular comic list?

Best,
Hunter (Pedro Bouça)